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Bad Business on My Part?

Posted under Law & Ethics by admin on Thursday 30 July 2009 at 10:10 am
M. Oeuf Fromage asked:


***Note***
I posted this in another category too, so I hope I don’t get in trouble but I really need the opinions of people that read and answer in this category too.
***End Note***

OK… I design websites. I do not sell templates. As a matter of fact it is all over my website that I do not do templates, ever.

But a little over a year ago a new client came along and said he was looking for a template. He said he wanted a website built that looked cool and that he would update it.

I never told him I would give him a template, as a matter of fact I told him that he seemed like a busy guy and that I would be there to do the updating of his site for him.

So what I offered him (verbatim) is:

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$365 Includes:

5-7 page site designed and implemented
Hosting if needed
Up to 100 Email Addresses (if hosting with me)
Flash Design (2 max)
Logo Design and / or Manipulation
Contact form on site (PHP)
Free Updates for the existing content of the site (once site is designed and implemented)
1 Year – 24/7 Support (just email or call me anytime for any reason)
Submission of your URL to over 200 Search Engines quarterly

After one year, if you like to continue my services I just invoice you an additional $365 on the 1 year anniversary date.

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Now… The anniversary date has passed. I sent 3 invoices to the email address of the guy that started this agreement. I sent a 30 day notice, a 7 day notice and a 1 day notice. There was no reply to any of them.

I waited 10 days after the account was due to be renewed because that is what I say I will do in my Terms Of Service. And on this 10th day I filed a DMCA (copyright infringement) with the company that is hosting his site.

I did this because, again, I do not do templates. And in my TOS it says:

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All web site designs developed by and implemented by will remain the Intellectual Property of and domain names purchased by will not be transferred to the Customer if at any time either or the Customer cancel the Customers account, or the Customer violates any credit terms or other terms associated with this agreement and or their account.

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and

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Any artwork, images, or text supplied by and / or designed by on behalf of the customer and / or for use on the clients website, will remain the property of .
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Among other things.

I do not sell templates, I sell a service. If someone thinks they bought my designs, I’m sorry, but they didn’t, and I have gone out of my way to make this clear.

Anyway, today I get a call from someone else that works at the place I did the site for, actually the owner. He tells me that the person I was working with is no longer with his company, and the whole time he thought what they purchased was a template.

I explained to him what I just explained here and I told him that I would sell him the design outright and royalty free for $99. He talked me down to $75. Which is cool.

I just don’t like my work out there, and people hacking it up and making it look bad which makes me look bad, which is one reason why I hold the rights to my work. The other reason is, since I don’t do templates and every site is designed from scratch there is much more work involved, and if someone is done with their site, moves on to another company or whatever, then I am free to take that design with me and sell it to someone else who may have similar needs.

I have been doing webs now for over 10 years, and this is honestly the very first time I have been in this situation.

I kinda feel like a jerk, and although I had no intention of misleading anyone it appears that there was some confusion. But all in all I think the offer of buying my design for only $75 is a sweet offer to resolve the situation.

Am I being a jerk? And if I am, do you think it’s justified?

Let me know, I really want as many opinions as possible.

Thanks
Oh, and yesterday I emailed him a payment link for the $75 and he still has not paid.

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3 Comments »

  1. Comment by Dave... — July 31, 2009 @ 8:00 am

    seo help

    ***Note***
    I posted this answer in another category too. sounds like a misunderstanding… it was all there in your TOS, if they didn’t like it (or didn’t read it) it’s their problem. $75 for a static site isn’t bad, I guess. It’s not $365, but it’s some cash in your pocket. If he still doesn’t pay up, sic the DCMA on him!

    * Even though Beef Stuart gave me a thumb’s down… he has a point.

  2. Comment by Stuart — August 3, 2009 @ 12:31 am

    Genesis

    You know what? There are two parts to this: first, you are absolutely in the right since you posted your Terms Of Service and the customer agrees to the TOS by doing business with you, meaning you have a contract, and

    Seventy-five bucks is too cheap. I’d have held his feet to the fire for the full fee. However, you made the sale, and have learned a valuable lesson.

    - Stuart

  3. Comment by Kaz — August 5, 2009 @ 11:22 am

    collect pens

    You had a contract that was clearly stated, which was agreed to by the customer and he/she must have also agreed to the TOS. I don’t understand why you would feel that you are at fault. Since you did not breach your contract in any shape or form, it’s legally binding. If you’re worried about the business ethics side, he’s in the wrong. Simple.

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